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    Ground Zero Mosque

    Pentimento it isn't even about his manner :B He recognizes that there are extreme fringe groups in his own faith (the Westboro Baptists are a prominent example of one), and it's sufficient for him to acknowledge that the views of the WBC are atrocious and are not the views he holds. This is...
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    Ground Zero Mosque

    Every time you tell someone that the building you object to is a ground-zero mosque you are lying. It's easier to get people all offended when you portray the building as an Allah-skyscraper built over a pile of smoldering corpses and funded by the fringe group behind the attacks, but you know...
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    Ground Zero Mosque

    People enact social change and challenge status quos because they are unhappy. It's not because they're uppity and need to learn to accept society as-is. For example, I am reasonably sure the black population of America is much happier having challenged the status quo and pressing for the...
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    Ground Zero Mosque

    You said, "show me the founding fathers expressing that the constitution and the law ought to be subject to change and scrutiny" You were shown this, in the form of a relevant statement by one of the founding fathers asserting that the document was meant to be changed.
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    Ground Zero Mosque

    Dude that is what the 13th, 15th, and 19th amendments were about fixing the supreme court once ruled that black slaves were property and not citizens Also Zuu is currently banned for being flaming you but he replies that one of the founding fathers explicitly supported the idea of the living...
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    Ground Zero Mosque

    no you are decisively wrong. this sort of speaks for itself.
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    Ground Zero Mosque

    sometimes cutting spending is irresponsible. Is welfare a socialist construct? Perhaps it is. Nobody is denying this. So is social security, and so is pretty much every government-managed service that the government taxes your family in order to maintain, like, say, the roads and the schools...
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    Ground Zero Mosque

    If I thought Islam and terrorism were synonymous I would be pretty upset by this too
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    Ground Zero Mosque

    HEY PWNEMON what do you think of this I think it's relevant to the point you're attempting to make :v
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